If not an iPhone, then what?

If you're not into really using a cell phone for internet usage & emailing etc (that's what I use my computer for personally), then the Dare is a nice choice since it does not require a data plan for extra $. It's a very nice feature phone so it has a lot of interesting ways too customize the home screen with very nice camera & editing options & texting is easy once you calibrate it the "correct" way. Read the reviews for all of the phones you've listed on sites like cnet.com & phonescoop.com & you will prob find like I have, that the Dare gets the best user reviews out of most if not all of those choices. Remember, all phones get boring after a while & a smartphone is truly for someone who wants to carry their computer in their pocket without all the bulk. Now if you're not impressed with any of the choices, then check out the new Blackberry Storm that's said to come out for Verizon Wireless in October (although it could be closer to the holidays you never know w/ these companies) Anyways, it looks like direct competition for the IPhone & with the Blackberry name behind it as well as Verizons coverage & service it's sure to be amazingly advanced. That being said, prepare to pay for the mandatory data plan like the IPhone & if you do get something like this, I'd probably start doing a little more with my phone than texting or making calls cause that's a lot of money for normal cell phone usage. Good luck with your choice, I don't think you'd be happy buying the IPhone again, I think you'd feel stuck & dissapointed. Heck AT&T alone is a dissapointment!